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n my many years as a Minister and Counsellor I am often asked to provide information or referrals to resources, requests for advice on life, questions from people trying to understand themselves and others around them, or assist hurting people needing someone to listen and care.

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Being gay is wrong. God made male and female, not male and male, female and female. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Gays canít reproduce, so they have to recruit.

From what you wrote, I believe you feel it was God's original intention was for male-female relationships as the key to our sexual fulfillment; and, homosexuality is a part of the fallen nature of the world and not part of God's original plan.

The Old Covenant was a shadow of the New Covenant. In order for something to be a shadow, it cannot be the substance, but the reflection of something real, not the reality itself, and often a shadow announces the arrival of the actual. Scriptures state that Christ was crucified before the foundation of the world. Christ has always existed as the Second Member of the Trinity, and has always been the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, meaning slain before the fall, not just after.

The sacrifices of the Old Testament did not remove sin. The Bible shows us it was faith through the sacrifice, believing in the coming of the greater sacrifice of Christ that salvation and forgiveness was given. Salvation has always been through faith and not of works, both in the shadowy Old Covenant and the revealed New Covenant. Through the slain Christ, we who now live on this side of the Sacrifice, have no need for a lamb or steer, we believe on the One who was slain, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.

The sin of Adam and Eve was stepping outside of "agape" (Greek word for unconditional self-sacrificing) Love. In order for Love to be Love it must be both freely given and freely received, lest it be slavery and robotics. Further, Love must be an object having an object upon which to focus its actions in order for Love to exist, Love must have something to Love in order for there to be Love, it is both verb and noun. Adam chose to exercise his free will outside of the bounds of Love. Eve was deceived; Adam deliberately chose his path, and sadly, our path.

The reality of the New Covenant shows the purpose for procreation within the shadowy Old Covenant was for the purpose of building a people, and from that people might come the Christ. Since the Covenant of God is eternal, and Christ fulfilled the Old Covenant in bring into reality the New Covenant, the New Covenant shows forth the true purposes for sex and sexuality applicable through both Covenants.

The Old Covenant was obsessed with sex and reproduction, and it had to be pure, whether animal or human. Sadly, though women and even Gentiles were permitted within the front door of the Temple, any man who was sterile, who had no children, an eunuch, or who had been "wounded in the stones" or rendered sterile through some injury to his testicles was NOT permitted in the door of the Temple at all. Period. The purity of reproduction and the purity of the animal sacrifice insured the coming reality of the sinless Sacrificed Christ, ensured the coming of the Kingly and human bloodline of the Divinely Incarnate Christ born of a virgin woman.

The same prophet, Isaiah, who was given the vision of the coming of the Incarnate, born of a virgin, was given the vision that one day the Law of the Old Covenant, through this Child, shall be written on the hearts of those in the New Covenant, and the eunuchs and those who have no children shall be able to call God's House a "house of prayer for all peoples."

The apostle Paul wrote the calling of a Christian is to remain in singleness, to seek not to be joined to another person, to remain chaste before the Lord, serving the Gospel and being a witness and light to the world. The calling of God is to be single, not joined to another, etc. We have no calling to be joined to another person, to have children, to have many children, to fill the earth with people. We are not called to "family values," we are called to be witnesses. To return to the Law of "replenish the earth" is to also return to the Law that would not permit any sterile man within the church walls. God forbid.

Ah, but some people believe the apostle Paul thought the return of Christ was going to be in his lifetime, he wanted people to get the Gospel out and wasnít meaning we werenít to be married or have children. Really? Who says? There is nothing in the writings of Paul, nor in the activities and surviving documents of his time or afterwards to show this teaching.

Paul wrote for those Christians "who cannot contain themselves" let them be "joined together," not referring in the Greek language to an actual "marriage" as we define marriage. Marriage as we define it is a relatively recent invention. For centuries, marriage was a social and economic contract between families, to ensure the survival of families and business. Women were little more than property. Even until the 1850s, in the United States, women could not inherit property, could not own a business, could not write a will, let alone vote. Marriage took on many forms within Christendom down through the centuries. The Church performed heterosexual and same-sex marriages for centuries, and the surviving ceremonies and documents may be found in the Vatican and other libraries in Europe. Even today, in the Catholic faith there remains the example of life partners in a same sex marriage, martyred for the faith, Catholic saints.

The apostle Paul was more concerned about the souls of Christians than their reproduction. He knew there were those Christians who had such sex drives that in order to keep them from error, from stepping outside the bounds of "agape" Love and lusting within themselves or after other people it was best for them to enter into monogamous relationships than to be consumed to the point of interfering with their relationship with God.

Therefore, shall we say then those Christians who are able to abide in singleness are higher than those who cannot and must be in relationship so they can have sex like bunnies? Shall we say then one is better than the other, one less than God desires or wants for Christís people? God forbid. What condemnation is this? To say such is to place under condemnation, to declare their "weakness in the flesh" has made them somehow less than the New Covenant desires, and though God accepts it, it is not what God really intended for Christians. No, Paul teaches there is " condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."

We are not called to reproduce, we are not called to not reproduce, we are not called to be heterosexuals, we are not called to be homosexuals, we are not called to be in relationship, we are not called to not be in relationship. We are called to be the children of God, nothing more, and nothing less. We are called to be children of God through adoption into the family of God through faith in the Christ slain from the foundation of the world. We are called, in being the adopted children of God, to be Love as God is Love and to be holy as God is holy.

The calling from the foundation of the world, before and after the fall remains the same. We are called to be God's children, created in Godís image, walking in Godís image, verb and noun "agape" Love. If, within the personal plan for a personís life, God calls you to be joined to another in relationship, rejoice. If not, rejoice, also. Either way, whether in or out of relationship, we are called to remain pure of heart, holy before the Lord, witnesses of the truth, walking in Love. We are called to be Christians and to reproduce Christians. We are called to be Christians and recruit others to Jesus Christ.

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